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A Spiritual Dream
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  I had another cool dream, but this one is among the emotional chart toppers.  Sadly, I don't recall a lot of details, and for some of it, you would actually have to have seen something I've seen.  I will attempt to accurately tell about this dream.  It's difficult, because the aspects are very complex.

  I am in an airport or a bus station (I forget which), and I'm with a female who is, though the actual relationship was not defined, I'll say my mate.  I think we were going somewhere, but throughout the dream, we never left the station, or whatever.

  Anyway, though her actual presence with me was flashing on and off, and was usually off, we were walking through, and as we approached a middle open area containing one round, no-backed and cushioned chair, not my dream self, but my dream knowledge (a narrator, to offer a decent analogy), told me (my real self) that my dream self wanted a daughter.

  This all happened in a matter of like one second, then I (my dream self, and without presence of mate) approached this chair, and only in the instant of being next to it, knew that the young girl laying in the chair was now mine.  In this dream, though the girl's actual mom had left her sitting there for only a moment, but because the girl was alone, and I wanted her, she was now rightfully mine.  The girl was around 10, or so.  I couldn't be sure.

  Here comes the really weird part.  The instant I look at her laying in this large chair, all objects, but her and the chair, disappear, and everything (her, the chair, and all else) changes to bright colors.  It's very difficult to explain exactly how the colors looked.  I almost want to say they were in bands, but that gives the wrong image.

  They were all the colors of the rainbow, though slightly pastel, or at least given a slightly silver quality, yet the colors were still very vivid, and where the colors faded into each other, they were almost bleached white.  Also, for part of the sequences, it seemed as if the scene was on finely pleated and very stiff "fabric".  Actually, it was a lot like a cartoon.

  Anyway, while I was looking at her, she laid on her side, with her back along the curve of the chair.  Size relations between her and the chair were not very proportional to reality.  When I looked at her, she would be looking up at me and smiling with great joy, and she and the chair would be turning like a record, though they would not be turning quite as fast as one.  There were only two or three separate instances where I actually looked at her, but every time, it all looked exactly like that.  When I looked up, everything was back to normal.

  Now the emotional part. This too is very complex.  I can't actually tell you the emotion, because it's not a single emotion, or a definable one.  I have to tell you each of the individual aspects, and you have to combine them all together.

  One emotion is intense joy, and I can't think of anything else to say on that one.  The other emotion is very tricky.  Something you have to understand about me is that I have a deep appreciation for all that, which is female, in form or in concept, for lack of a more accurate description.  For me, male is equivalent to strength, power, aggression, etc., while female is equivalent to beauty, nurturing, sensuality, etc....

  Understand that I am by no means a pedophile, but I can see qualities of beauty and sensuality, as they relate to physical appearance, in females of just about any age.  There are definitely limits, like babies and the really old, and then there are the incredibly unattractive people in the ages in between.

  Anyway, this girl, who looked almost cartoon-like, was, and this was mostly the dream associating the emotions, instead of it having a lot to do with how she actually looked, incredibly beautiful and exuding a certain level of sensuality in her appearance.

  So, you combine intense joy, only partially because I am getting a daughter, with the emotions related to her being so beautiful, etc. for a child.  It was like she was the absolute most perfect child I could have, because she was so incredibly suited to my personal tastes.  Understand, also, that while there was technically a certain level of sensuality involved, I was never looking upon her in a sexual manner.

  Anyway, the whole point is that these emotions were so intense, in the dream, that I was actually moved in real life almost to tears of joy.  I think the only thing that kept me from actually issuing tears was the times I looked up, for whatever reason.  I don't remember much, but for some reason, it turned out I was not able to keep her, because she somehow got lost, almost as if someone had inadvertently pushed the chair on down the hall while I was looking away, and when I looked back, I could not find her.

  Suddenly, a second child was placed in my hands with more spatial disproportion), there were some colors, though not as bright, and I could still see background stuff, plus she did not look as good, and she did not look at me, and she was just generally not nearly as good as the other girl.  I woke up shortly after while in dream confusion.

  As I've said, it's the intensity of the emotions that is the point, and there's something interesting about that.  I have certain spiritual beliefs, and as they are related to the soul, and its relation to the body, it is experiences like that dream that seem to back up my beliefs.

  Admittedly, from an objective point of view, you can't be too sure if the sense is backing up the belief, or if the belief is creating the sense, but I really feel it's the former.  To give the super-condensed version, I feel that the soul is pretty much pure emotion, specifically love, and our bodies are enormous hindrances in experiencing purity.

  I've had other dreams where I've experienced intense emotions of joy, though this one takes the cake, but with every one, no matter how intense, I feel the full power of the emotion is being held back, out of reach.  No matter how intense the joy and love gets, there will always be an empty spot due to the physical factor, and in its own way, it is pure torturous agony.

  I think this is the cause of tears of joy.  The intense emotions are pushing like mad to get out, to explode to glory, but the physical factor is a barrier.  You might compare it to having your body trying to expand a lot, while being mostly wrapped in narrow leather straps.  Parts of your flesh are allowed freedom, but the other parts are experiencing the squeezing, plus there's the stretching in the areas in between the two.






A Spiritual Dream
by Samm J. Bogner
January 6, 2001

  The people in dreams, how they are presented and the feelings that we receive from being with them can clarify some of the confusion that we feel when a dream does not make any sense to us.

  The following dream was submitted by a twenty-five-year-old, single male.  He states, "I know what I want in a mate and have not found it.  While I do not entirely rule out having a child during the course of my life, I'm not the least bit eager to have one.  I don't dislike children, as such, but I generally prefer to not be around them."  Knowing this information on this gentleman's conscious preferences helps to set the stage for the dream.

  The dreamer writes: "I am in an airport or a bus station ...with a female who is ... I'll say my mate.  I think we were going somewhere, but ... we never left the station, ... her presence with me was flashing on and off..."

  Quite often, our journey through life is represented by a place of travel.  The fact that this dreamer is with a woman who he thinks is his mate, but admits they "never left the station"  (the relationship didn't go anywhere) and the woman's image comes and goes (suggesting women come and go in his life) emphasizes that he is looking for a woman to share his life, but no-one is able to fulfill his needs.

  He continues: "...as we approached a middle open area containing one round, no-backed and cushioned chair...a narrator... told me (my real self) that my dream self wanted a daughter... then I (my dream self, and without presence of mate) approached this chair, and only in the instant of being next to it, knew that the young girl laying in the chair was now mine.....the girl's actual mom had left her sitting there for only a moment, because the girl was alone, and I wanted her, she was now rightfully mine.  The girl was around 10, or so..."

  The presence of a narrator in a dream suggests a lucid nature (the awareness of dreaming).  In addition, the dreamer is aware not only of the narrator, but of the waking self and dream self.  In such cases, the dream self represents the subconscious mind, desires and aspects, and the waking self is the conscious mind.

  Continuing: "...The instant I look at her laying in this large chair, all objects, but her and the chair, disappear, and everything (her, the chair, and all else) changes to bright colors.  They were all the colors of the rainbow... given a slightly silver quality, yet the colors were still very vivid, and where the colors faded into each other, they were almost bleached white..."

  The Spiritual quality of the dream enters here.  According to the book, DREAMS by C. G. Jung, having many colors represented in a balanced way, suggests the four forms of deity: Father, Mother, Son and Spirit.  We have a hint that the dreamer has a very Spiritual belief with regard to what a woman or girl should be.

  The dreamer notes: "...Also, for part of the sequences, it seemed as if the scene was on finely pleated and very stiff "fabric".  Actually, it was a lot like a cartoon... she laid on her side, with her back along the curve of the chair.  Size relations between her and the chair were not very proportional to reality."

  The dreamer is telling himself that his expectations are rigid ("...very stiff fabric...").  It looked like a cartoon, because such strong expectations are not realistic.

  "...When I looked at her, she would be looking up at me and smiling with great joy, and she and the chair would be turning like a record, though not quite as fast.."

  The turning of the chair suggests the movement of time.

  "...When I looked up, everything was back to normal...."

  Here, the dreamer touches in with the moment, losing the Spiritual effect of the colors.

  ".....for some reason, it turned out I was not able to keep her, because she somehow got lost....  Suddenly, a second child was placed in my hands (again with the disproportion), there were some colors, though not as bright, and I could still see background stuff, plus she did not look as good, and she did not look at me, and she was just generally not nearly as good as the other girl...."

  Here we see the effect of the conscious mind attempting to sort out the conflict presented by the unconscious mind.  The conscious mind believes that it cannot have the perfect child (or woman), so it brings in a second child, one which allows for reality ("... I could still see background stuff...").  The dreamer recognizes his Spiritual ideal in the feminine, but admits that reality falls short of that ideal.

  The dreamer then expresses his feelings: "...one emotion is intense joy, only partially because I am getting a daughter, with the emotions related to her being so beautiful, etc... for a child....she was the absolute most perfect child I could have... these emotions were so intense, in the dream, that I was actually moved in real life almost to tears of joy..."

  The intensity of emotion that the dreamer felt on waking from this dream emphasizes the Spiritual quality, his association of feminine perfection with Spirituality.  The fact that he has symbolized that perfection as a child, suggests that he feels some quality, possibly innocence or honesty, is lost ("...she somehow got lost...") with maturity into a woman ("...without presence of mate...").  Once again, the fact that the first child was substituted by a second, more in touch with reality, suggests his awareness of the difficulty of finding his ideal.


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